Michael Jackson and Freddie Gibbs are both from Gary, Indiana, and the rapper claimed in a recent interview that the King of Pop used to compete against Gibbs’ father in talent showcases throughout the city.

Gibbs, 40, admitted to Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson on their podcast All The Smoke that Michael Jackson used to beat his father in talent shows. In reality, my dad sings and plays in The Chi-Lites. He and Mike were of a similar age, so when they ran into each other in talent events, Mike would fk that nia up. “Fk you thought, nia,” I say.

The rapper from “4 Thangs” continued by describing a competition in which his father was made to fight not just against Michael but also the full Jackson 5.

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He continued, “And I’m like, you up there alone.” “He got Jermaine, Tito… You understand what I’m saying? They are in step, they have moves, and they have Joe. Joe was pushing them around like nias. You only had your mother saying you, “Yes, my baby,” and you didn’t have anyone else. Nia, Mike had a team! He was unable to f**k with Mike.

He said, “I love you Dad, but you know you can’t fk with Mike,” which made the hosts laugh. Mike was screwing you over your entire life. Turn that muthafkin sh*t off, my dad said while we were watching Michael Jackson. Though he be listening to it quietly. That woman adores Mike.

13 years after his passing, Michael Jackson’s legacy is still felt, as evidenced by the fact that, after 38 years, the 1982 album Thriller has reentered the Billboard Top 10.

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